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>Anybody with a more technical explanation for this? LadyAndy, >Dave? Please….don’t leave me out here with a half-baked posting!
The explanations I’ve heard, and Lady Andy seems to have heard the same stuff, are no more baked than what you posted. At this point, it’s all wild conjecture. Not a lot is known about this, or starvation clearing, either, probably because it’s highly unethical to get people pregnant or to starve them in order to test a theory. Here’s another SWAG for you: perhaps women who experience pregnancy flaring (and as I understand it, this is much more rare than pregnancy clearing) are actually having proteins or other stuff from the foetus crossing the placenta into Mom’s bloodstream, and their immune systems mount a wide-spread response to that, which collaterally induces a flare-up. Who knows? – Dave W.
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Hi, I don’t know if this bears any relation, but for the 10 years I took the contraceptive pill, my P was clear. It was there before and was there afterwards. I was also clear during both pregnancies but after the second babe was born, developed PA and bad flare up of P. The Psoriasis was very troublesome for nearly eight years. Have been clear for 18 months now though. Debbie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Anybody with a more technical explanation for this? LadyAndy, >Dave? Please….don’t leave me out here with a half-baked posting! >The explanations I’ve heard, and Lady Andy seems to have heard >the same stuff, are no more baked than what you posted. At this >point, it’s all wild conjecture. Not a lot is known about this, or >starvation clearing, either, probably because it’s highly unethical to >get people pregnant or to starve them in order to test a theory. >Here’s another SWAG for you: perhaps women who experience >pregnancy flaring (and as I understand it, this is much more rare >than pregnancy clearing) are actually having proteins or other stuff >from the foetus crossing the placenta into Mom’s bloodstream, and >their immune systems mount a wide-spread response to that, which >collaterally induces a flare-up. Who knows? >- Dave W.
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lets see- i am 33 and have had this for hmmm probably 3 years so i was 29–and have never gone to the docs for it yet–i dont like the idea of all those drugs which may have an effect or not or a bad one 0–my son will be 5 this winter am thinking of another child, but am worried about pregnancy with P….
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> lets see- i am 33 and have had this for hmmm probably 3 years so i was 29–and > have never gone to the docs for it yet–i dont like the idea of all those drugs > which may have an effect or not or a bad one 0–my son will be 5 this winter am > thinking of another child, but am worried about pregnancy with P….
Hi, My name is Fran. Only you can decide what to do re: pregnancy. In my experience, I cleared when I was pregnant for my daughter and got worse when pregnant for my son. Who knows. Maybe the hormones do play a role. Maybe not. Don’t let the disease control you. If you want another baby, go ahead girl. Just don’t be on any meds while trying or during pregnancy unless authorized by a doctor. Good luck.
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My daughter’s psoriasis cleared when she was pregnat and didn’t come back. Now she is pregnant again. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > lets see- i am 33 and have had this for hmmm probably 3 years so i was 29–and > have never gone to the docs for it yet–i dont like the idea of all those drugs > which may have an effect or not or a bad one 0–my son will be 5 this winter am > thinking of another child, but am worried about pregnancy with P….
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>She is lucky, mine cleared mostly with pregnancy. Then came back worse than >before. Regardless, I still would like to have one more : )
Then you should, Jena! Nothing like having kids to love, especially when you’re my age. I wish I had a dozen instead of building a career after my two were grown. On the other hand, I would rather have my old company pay me a nice salary on Long Term Disability than take money from my kids……. I have heard (and as usual, I must say my explanation is simplistic) that during pregnancy, a hormone is produced that keeps women from rejecting the fetus. As we know, our bodies reject transplants and patients who have them must take immunosuppressant drugs to keep their bodies from destroying the new organ. Since our disease is due to a whacked out immune system that attacks its own body, it sounds reasonable that this hormone would keep the skin clear during pregnancy. Which makes me wonder if this hormone is the same as cortisone or a steroid. On the other hand, many women post an increase in disease activity during pregnancy, but do not reject the fetus. Anybody with a more technical explanation for this?LadyAndy, Dave? Please….don’t leave me out here with a half-baked posting! Ava
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>Since our disease is due to a whacked out immune system that attacks its own >body, it sounds reasonable that this hormone would keep the skin clear during >pregnancy. Which makes me wonder if this hormone is the same as cortisone or >a >steroid. >On the other hand, many women post an increase in disease activity during >pregnancy, but do not reject the fetus. >Anybody with a more technical explanation for this?LadyAndy, Dave? >Please….don’t leave me out here with a half-baked posting! >Ava
Hehehe… thanks, Ava. I loved the humor. And no, that wasn’t a half-baked posting. :) Many people with RA (rheumatoid arthritis) and PA (psoriatic arthritis) experience a remission of all symptoms during pregnancy. It doesn’t happen with everybody, but it happens enough to be of great interest to physicians and researchers. I don’t know about the skin condition psoriasis during pregnancy, but I would suspect it might be a similar reaction. And yes, best hypotheses seem to be that it is the hormonal balances in the body that change enough to allow a remission during pregnancy. The bad news is, many of these same people will also experience a flaring of their disease after giving birth (a few months later). In time, this flaring can be gotten under control, but it is a real concern for a new mom. It is hardly practical to remain constantly pregnant in order to achieve a long remission, but then they still do not know the complete answer to why and how the hormones influence the disease. Is it the immune system that is dampened in pregnancy? Is it the hormones that help the woman’s bones to become more flexible, allowing for easier childbirth? Is it that the body becomes "distracted" with the developing foetus, allowing a simmering down of our overactive skin cells and immune responses, similar to the way some people feel better in their arthritis symptoms while suffering from the flu? Sorry, I only have my own half-baked theories to propose myself. :) If we had the answer, maybe we would have the cure. One day, may we have all the answers. Best regards,
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>Hello everyone… >As an addendum to the above…i would also like to know if anyone has any >idea of >the general (broad) age group in which psoriasis is prevalent ? >I am 25….my PS started about 6 yrs ago…. >Flarey
My daughter is 13 and was diagnosed with psoriasis at age 8. Martha Anderson
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From what I’ve seen, most chronic illnesses affect women more than men, and most also begin after puberty. Like around 16. erin
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According to the National Psoriasis Foundation ( http://www.psoriasis.org/ ), both males and females get psoriasis in equal numbers. Here is their statement from their FAQ: "Q: Who gets psoriasis? Both males and females get psoriasis in equal numbers. It can strike at any age, but most often between 15 and 35. However, a first-time diagnoses of psoriasis has been seen in very old people, and in new-born babies and small children. About 150,000 to 250,000 new cases of psoriasis are diagnosed each year. Select the following link to see some more psoriasis statistics. " (this link is inactive when I copy it… to see the real deal, go to their website) I suspect the people who talk about it, who see the doctor about it, and who seek help from support groups and newsgroups may include a larger proportion of females, but that seems to be true of most health conditions. You guys are all sooo tough. :) You hate to see the doc, right? Best regards,
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From what I know about psoriasis in the UK (for which resources are extremely poor and difficult to obtain), the condition is very slightly more common in ladies than gentlemen. but only say 51% against 49%. I first contracted this cursed condition when I was 13, after a series of tonsillitis bouts, followed by a huge bodily flare-up allergy to penicillin. After the penicillin allergy flared up, it only took about 4 days before this strange scaly stuff appeared as 2 small patches on my elbows, but before long spread like the plague, ensuring many sneers and hurtful comments directed my way as a pre-pubescent teenager, and immediately put paid to my popularity amongst teenage girls who suddenly started to see me as some disgusting creature from the swamp !!
> According to the National Psoriasis Foundation
( http://www.psoriasis.org/ ), – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> both males and females get psoriasis in equal numbers. Here is their statement > from their FAQ: > "Q: Who gets psoriasis? > Both males and females get psoriasis in equal numbers. It can strike at any > age, but most often between 15 and 35. However, a first-time diagnoses of > psoriasis has been seen in very old people, and in new-born babies and small > children. About 150,000 to 250,000 new cases of psoriasis are diagnosed each > year. Select the following link to see some more psoriasis statistics. " > (this link is inactive when I copy it… to see the real deal, go to their > website) > I suspect the people who talk about it, who see the doctor about it, and who > seek help from support groups and newsgroups may include a larger proportion of > females, but that seems to be true of most health conditions. You guys are all > sooo tough. :) You hate to see the doc, right? > Best regards,
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IMO: I think psoriasis is an equal opportunity disease. Guys are supposed to just suck it up and not complain. Some of the women I know who are affected are absolutely devestated, but seem to handle it after a while a bit better than the guys. Irv—>in Alabama
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> Hello everyone… > As an addendum to the above…i would also like to know if anyone has any > idea of > the general (broad) age group in which psoriasis is prevalent ? > I am 25….my PS started about 6 yrs ago…. > regards > Flarey
Yo Flarey, My P began when I was around 16. I don’t think there is any specific age group for P although there might be an age group when the P can get chronic and worse. Meanwhile how’z your P Vishy
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Started to notice something was really up at age 23 or 24. Prior to that I had what I thought was thick callus on feet, rough elbows, and very sensitive skin when shaving. My mom, her sister, and granny had psoriasis. me & my first cousin (maternal side) are the only one of dozens of grandkids who were blessed with it. About 5% coverage at its worst. Now 47 years old if you "have" to know ;>) Jim.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello everyone… > As an addendum to the above…i would also like to know if anyone has any > idea of > the general (broad) age group in which psoriasis is prevalent ? > I am 25….my PS started about 6 yrs ago…. > regards > Flarey >Yo Flarey, >My P began when I was around 16. I don’t think there is any specific >age group for P although there might be an age group when the P can get >chronic and worse. >Meanwhile how’z your P >Vishy
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>I realy don’t know if males or famales, >I just want to advertise my Psoriasis Cure site: >http://gtmarketing.hypermart.net >Full of interesting articles
You know advertising is not welcome in the Usenet Newsgroup alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis. You also know that UVB and coal tar is not a cure for psoriasis, although they are very well-established and good treatments to reduce the symptoms. See also http://www.pinch.com/skin/pshame.html#gilteva and I sent a complaint to the ISP, anyway. – Dave W.
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Hello everyone…. I am just curious as to whether PS affects males or females more ?….i am sure if this query was addressed previously…someone will point it out… From what i am noticing…. more females seem to have PS… i am male… Just a thought… regards flarey
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Hello everyone… As an addendum to the above…i would also like to know if anyone has any idea of the general (broad) age group in which psoriasis is prevalent ? I am 25….my PS started about 6 yrs ago…. regards Flarey
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