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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> SPARKED MY PSORIASIS? MY NAME IS MIKE, FROM INDIANA.A PROFESSIONAL TRUCK > DRIVER AND USED TO BE INTO THESE OVER THE COUNTER NATURAL BOOSTERS TO STAY > AWAKE AND REGAIN ENERGY. > TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK, I USED TO TAKE SAINT JOHNS WART, > BACK IN 98, AND THAT IS WHEN MY FIRST SIGNS OF PSORIASIS STARTED TO APPEAR. > FIRST ON MY LEFT ELBOW THAT USED TO HANG IN THE WINDOW, THOUGHT IT WAS WIND > BURN, OR SUNBURN AT FIRST. > THEN AS SYMPTOMS INCREASED, I STOPPED USING IT. I HAVE IT ON MY BACK, ELBOWS > SCALP EYEBROWS CHIN AND GROIN AND PRIVATES. > RECENTLY, LESIONS HAVE APPEARED ON MY LEGS, FRONT AND BACK. > I HAVE BEEN TO THREE HOSPITALS, AND FIVE DOCTORS TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS. > FINALLY TRUSTING THE VA HOSPITAL IN INDIANAPOLIS, I WAS TOLD IT WAS NOT > DERMATITIS, BUT PSORIASIS. > I BELIEVE THE SAINT JOHNS WART HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. > I ALSO BELIEVE THAT PSORIASIS IS CONTAGIOUS, AND THE DOCTORS HAVE NOT MADE A > CONNECTION YET, SO THEY REFUTE THAT IDEA. > I WISH TO CORRESPOND WITH ALL INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TAKEN SAINT JOHNS WART > BEFORE YOURE PSORIASIS BROKE OUT. > SINCERELY, MIKE SCROGHAM OF INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA. > E-MAIL:
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>>Well, it’s not supposed to be contagious, and since people have had >psoriasis for thousands of years (and probably longer!) >Actually, I doubt that anyone’s ever had psoriasis for more than 120 years or >so…. [grin] >- Dave W. >http://members.aol.com/psorsite/
Gotta be a mummy somewhere with preserved psoriatic skin and I know of an article about some bones found in modern times dating back to 5th C CE that are believed to display signs of PA and possibly belonging to P sufferers since the bones indicated the original owners had been isolated from civilization as people with psoriasis and other ‘leprosies’ were… That’s 1600 years with psoriasis… <bigger grin> Kim The Psoriasis Newsgroup Resource FAQ can be found at http://pfaq.cjb.net but will also be coming soon (twice a month) to a newsgroup near you…
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>That’s 1600 years with psoriasis… ><bigger grin>
Touche! Of course, no mummies with psoriasis ever make it into the movies. They’d be too easy to find (just follow the flakes), or wouldn’t be able to sneak up on people ("do you hear scratching?" or "do you smell tar?"). – Dave W. http://members.aol.com/psorsite/
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I take Saint John’s Wort but my Psoriasis started way b4 i took the SJW. I actually find that my P gets worse when im not taking the SJW because then my stress levels go up. I don’t agree with you about Psoriasis being contagious, otherwise my children who share my bed and hairbrushes would have contracted it a long time ago. I think P is more of a hormonal imbalance condition or a nutrient deficit of some sort. Val.
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Hi Mike. Saint Johns Wort is in the ragweed family and is known to cause an immune response in some people. Since psoriasis is in some way connected to your immune system being overactive, it could trigger an outbreak. But it definitely can not cause psoriasis since psoriasis is inherited. It is in no way contagious. I have psoriatic arthritis and when I tried Saint John’s Wort, I had a flare that went away a while after I stopped. I have no proof that Saint John’s Wort was the cause, but I’m not taking it again! Ray – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > SPARKED MY PSORIASIS? MY NAME IS MIKE, FROM INDIANA.A PROFESSIONAL TRUCK > DRIVER AND USED TO BE INTO THESE OVER THE COUNTER NATURAL BOOSTERS TO STAY > AWAKE AND REGAIN ENERGY. > TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK, I USED TO TAKE SAINT JOHNS WART, > BACK IN 98, AND THAT IS WHEN MY FIRST SIGNS OF PSORIASIS STARTED TO APPEAR. > FIRST ON MY LEFT ELBOW THAT USED TO HANG IN THE WINDOW, THOUGHT IT WAS WIND > BURN, OR SUNBURN AT FIRST. > THEN AS SYMPTOMS INCREASED, I STOPPED USING IT. I HAVE IT ON MY BACK, ELBOWS > SCALP EYEBROWS CHIN AND GROIN AND PRIVATES. > RECENTLY, LESIONS HAVE APPEARED ON MY LEGS, FRONT AND BACK. > I HAVE BEEN TO THREE HOSPITALS, AND FIVE DOCTORS TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS. > FINALLY TRUSTING THE VA HOSPITAL IN INDIANAPOLIS, I WAS TOLD IT WAS NOT > DERMATITIS, BUT PSORIASIS. > I BELIEVE THE SAINT JOHNS WART HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. > I ALSO BELIEVE THAT PSORIASIS IS CONTAGIOUS, AND THE DOCTORS HAVE NOT MADE A > CONNECTION YET, SO THEY REFUTE THAT IDEA. > I WISH TO CORRESPOND WITH ALL INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TAKEN SAINT JOHNS WART > BEFORE YOURE PSORIASIS BROKE OUT. > SINCERELY, MIKE SCROGHAM OF INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA. > E-MAIL:
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Isn’t there a connections with cataracts and St John’s Wort? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I believe St John’s Wort can make you very sensitive to the sun. Probably >not relevant but worth keeping in mind. >Well, it’s relevant to psoriasis in general, since anything that increases >photosensitivity can help make your psoriasis symptoms go away without >necessarily getting any more sun or UV than you usually do in your day-to-day >activities. >It may not be relevant to Amikieman’s situation, unless it was actually an >unexpected sunburn from the use of St. John’s Wort which precipitated the first >psoriasis symptoms, since skin damage (Koebnerization) can worsen psoriasis, or >even trigger it "de novo." >- Dave W. >http://members.aol.com/psorsite/
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> > >Well, it’s not supposed to be contagious, and since people have had > >psoriasis for thousands of years (and probably longer!)
I suPPose a buddist could have it for many lives adding uP to some millennial re-incarnation, if you treat death as going back to start without passing GO. > Actually, I doubt that anyone’s ever had psoriasis for more than 120 years > or > so…. [grin]
I’ve had p for 45 years and another 45 wouldn’t be so bad if the quality of the rest of my life was anywhere as nice as the last five, p wise. > – Dave W. > http://members.aol.com/psorsite/ > Concerning having psoriasis for centuries: > Starting out by going down the conventional treatment road, eventually > leading to a senior newsgroup of self empowered experimental theorists > collectively on the verge of a nervous breakdown? By itself, the P > diagnosis would forever depress me as my life sentence at only 100 or so > years too young. Imagine Googling all of the ancient history Randall posts > for a trivia contest at each turn of the century. Whey too scarey a thought > to behold…-)
Hi Dan, Since SJW and gloomy moods started this thread. Lets do the abstract for it. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&… SJW causes phototoxcity, which may have helped mike the truck driver (first poster to this thread)to clear. Or there is something to the HPA axis and P that allows some psoriatics to clear, with lifting of the doom mood that SJW provides. My take is the liver/cytochrome P450- CYP3A channel had something to do with it. But, counterintuitivly to my whey of thinking as i’d expect a guttate flare or some such reaction to clearing. As to often happens with P i see the oPPosite from my exPectations. randall… great P expectations=more sunshine/Vitamin D-for me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> -Dan
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>I believe St John’s Wort can make you very sensitive to the sun. Probably >not relevant but worth keeping in mind.
Well, it’s relevant to psoriasis in general, since anything that increases photosensitivity can help make your psoriasis symptoms go away without necessarily getting any more sun or UV than you usually do in your day-to-day activities. It may not be relevant to Amikieman’s situation, unless it was actually an unexpected sunburn from the use of St. John’s Wort which precipitated the first psoriasis symptoms, since skin damage (Koebnerization) can worsen psoriasis, or even trigger it "de novo." – Dave W. http://members.aol.com/psorsite/
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>Well, it’s not supposed to be contagious, and since people have had >psoriasis for thousands of years (and probably longer!) > Actually, I doubt that anyone’s ever had psoriasis for more than 120 years or > so…. [grin] > – Dave W. > http://members.aol.com/psorsite/
Concerning having psoriasis for centuries: Starting out by going down the conventional treatment road, eventually leading to a senior newsgroup of self empowered experimental theorists collectively on the verge of a nervous breakdown? By itself, the P diagnosis would forever depress me as my life sentence at only 100 or so years too young. Imagine Googling all of the ancient history Randall posts for a trivia contest at each turn of the century. Whey too scarey a thought to behold…-) -Dan — Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience!
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>Well, it’s not supposed to be contagious, and since people have had >psoriasis for thousands of years (and probably longer!)
Actually, I doubt that anyone’s ever had psoriasis for more than 120 years or so…. [grin] – Dave W. http://members.aol.com/psorsite/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> SPARKED MY PSORIASIS? MY NAME IS MIKE, FROM INDIANA.A PROFESSIONAL TRUCK > DRIVER AND USED TO BE INTO THESE OVER THE COUNTER NATURAL BOOSTERS TO STAY > AWAKE AND REGAIN ENERGY. > TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK, I USED TO TAKE SAINT JOHNS WART, > BACK IN 98, AND THAT IS WHEN MY FIRST SIGNS OF PSORIASIS STARTED TO APPEAR. > FIRST ON MY LEFT ELBOW THAT USED TO HANG IN THE WINDOW, THOUGHT IT WAS WIND > BURN, OR SUNBURN AT FIRST. > THEN AS SYMPTOMS INCREASED, I STOPPED USING IT. I HAVE IT ON MY BACK, ELBOWS > SCALP EYEBROWS CHIN AND GROIN AND PRIVATES. > RECENTLY, LESIONS HAVE APPEARED ON MY LEGS, FRONT AND BACK. > I HAVE BEEN TO THREE HOSPITALS, AND FIVE DOCTORS TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS. > FINALLY TRUSTING THE VA HOSPITAL IN INDIANAPOLIS, I WAS TOLD IT WAS NOT > DERMATITIS, BUT PSORIASIS. > I BELIEVE THE SAINT JOHNS WART HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. > I ALSO BELIEVE THAT PSORIASIS IS CONTAGIOUS, AND THE DOCTORS HAVE NOT MADE A > CONNECTION YET, SO THEY REFUTE THAT IDEA. > I WISH TO CORRESPOND WITH ALL INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TAKEN SAINT JOHNS WART > BEFORE YOURE PSORIASIS BROKE OUT. > SINCERELY, MIKE SCROGHAM OF INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA. > E-MAIL:
I believe St John’s Wort can make you very sensitive to the sun. Probably not relevant but worth keeping in mind. Barry Hunt
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > SPARKED MY PSORIASIS? MY NAME IS MIKE, FROM INDIANA.A PROFESSIONAL TRUCK > DRIVER AND USED TO BE INTO THESE OVER THE COUNTER NATURAL BOOSTERS TO STAY > AWAKE AND REGAIN ENERGY. > TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK, I USED TO TAKE SAINT JOHNS WART, > BACK IN 98, AND THAT IS WHEN MY FIRST SIGNS OF PSORIASIS STARTED TO APPEAR. > FIRST ON MY LEFT ELBOW THAT USED TO HANG IN THE WINDOW, THOUGHT IT WAS WIND > BURN, OR SUNBURN AT FIRST. > THEN AS SYMPTOMS INCREASED, I STOPPED USING IT. I HAVE IT ON MY BACK, ELBOWS > SCALP EYEBROWS CHIN AND GROIN AND PRIVATES. > RECENTLY, LESIONS HAVE APPEARED ON MY LEGS, FRONT AND BACK. > I HAVE BEEN TO THREE HOSPITALS, AND FIVE DOCTORS TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS. > FINALLY TRUSTING THE VA HOSPITAL IN INDIANAPOLIS, I WAS TOLD IT WAS NOT > DERMATITIS, BUT PSORIASIS. > I BELIEVE THE SAINT JOHNS WART HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. > I ALSO BELIEVE THAT PSORIASIS IS CONTAGIOUS, AND THE DOCTORS HAVE NOT MADE A > CONNECTION YET, SO THEY REFUTE THAT IDEA. > I WISH TO CORRESPOND WITH ALL INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TAKEN SAINT JOHNS WART > BEFORE YOURE PSORIASIS BROKE OUT. > SINCERELY, MIKE SCROGHAM OF INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA. > E-MAIL:
I have had psoriasis all of my life and I am 62. It is NOT contagious. It is believed to be hereditary. I very much doubt that Saint John’s Wart had anything at all to do with your outbreak. They just happened to be at about the same time. I took St. John’s Wart for a few months some time ago and did not notice any effect whatever on my psoriasis. I also didn’t see that it was helping my moods or anything else so stopped taking it. By the way, typing in all capital letters is considered shouting and is also poor netiquette. Chuck.
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>SPARKED MY PSORIASIS? MY NAME IS MIKE, FROM INDIANA.A PROFESSIONAL TRUCK >DRIVER AND USED TO BE INTO THESE OVER THE COUNTER NATURAL BOOSTERS TO STAY >AWAKE AND REGAIN ENERGY. >TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK, I USED TO TAKE SAINT JOHNS WART, >BACK IN 98, AND THAT IS WHEN MY FIRST SIGNS OF PSORIASIS STARTED TO APPEAR.
What is known to trigger psoriasis is stress. Maybe the long weeks were stressful? >FIRST ON MY LEFT ELBOW THAT USED TO HANG IN THE WINDOW, THOUGHT IT WAS WIND >BURN, OR SUNBURN AT FIRST. >THEN AS SYMPTOMS INCREASED, I STOPPED USING IT. I HAVE IT ON MY BACK, ELBOWS >SCALP EYEBROWS CHIN AND GROIN AND PRIVATES. >RECENTLY, LESIONS HAVE APPEARED ON MY LEGS, FRONT AND BACK. >I HAVE BEEN TO THREE HOSPITALS, AND FIVE DOCTORS TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS. >FINALLY TRUSTING THE VA HOSPITAL IN INDIANAPOLIS, I WAS TOLD IT WAS NOT >DERMATITIS, BUT PSORIASIS.
You didn’t mention your age, I’d be curious to know. Seems there’s kind of a midpoint around 30, plus or minus, where it breaks out for some people (like it did for me). >I BELIEVE THE SAINT JOHNS WART HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. >I ALSO BELIEVE THAT PSORIASIS IS CONTAGIOUS, AND THE DOCTORS HAVE NOT MADE A >CONNECTION YET, SO THEY REFUTE THAT IDEA.
Well, it’s not supposed to be contagious, and since people have had psoriasis for thousands of years (and probably longer!) you’d think they’d have that much figured out by now. BUT, maybe not — maybe it is contagious, but only for those of us with "psoriasis genes". There’s talk of something called a nanobacterium … nobody’s ever exactly seen one, but, y’know, maybe. There are other theories. We’ve got lots of theories around here. <g> >I WISH TO CORRESPOND WITH ALL INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TAKEN SAINT JOHNS WART >BEFORE YOURE PSORIASIS BROKE OUT. > SINCERELY, MIKE SCROGHAM OF INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA. > E-MAIL:
Um, one last thing – I think it’s generally "wort", not "wart". Got enough skin problems without that, y’know?!??! J.
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SPARKED MY PSORIASIS? MY NAME IS MIKE, FROM INDIANA.A PROFESSIONAL TRUCK DRIVER AND USED TO BE INTO THESE OVER THE COUNTER NATURAL BOOSTERS TO STAY AWAKE AND REGAIN ENERGY. TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK, I USED TO TAKE SAINT JOHNS WART, BACK IN 98, AND THAT IS WHEN MY FIRST SIGNS OF PSORIASIS STARTED TO APPEAR. FIRST ON MY LEFT ELBOW THAT USED TO HANG IN THE WINDOW, THOUGHT IT WAS WIND BURN, OR SUNBURN AT FIRST. THEN AS SYMPTOMS INCREASED, I STOPPED USING IT. I HAVE IT ON MY BACK, ELBOWS SCALP EYEBROWS CHIN AND GROIN AND PRIVATES. RECENTLY, LESIONS HAVE APPEARED ON MY LEGS, FRONT AND BACK. I HAVE BEEN TO THREE HOSPITALS, AND FIVE DOCTORS TO GET AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS. FINALLY TRUSTING THE VA HOSPITAL IN INDIANAPOLIS, I WAS TOLD IT WAS NOT DERMATITIS, BUT PSORIASIS. I BELIEVE THE SAINT JOHNS WART HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT PSORIASIS IS CONTAGIOUS, AND THE DOCTORS HAVE NOT MADE A CONNECTION YET, SO THEY REFUTE THAT IDEA. I WISH TO CORRESPOND WITH ALL INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TAKEN SAINT JOHNS WART BEFORE YOURE PSORIASIS BROKE OUT. SINCERELY, MIKE SCROGHAM OF INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA. E-MAIL:
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