Smallpox Vaccine & P
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Thanks for posting that link. I hadn’t heard this info before and its good news for me since I’m in my 30’s!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > > I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the > vaccination > > > > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific > skin > > > > diseases are involved. > > > > Anybody have experience with this? > > > I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident > in > > a > > > laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from > us > > > tourists. > > > My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a > week > I > > > had no further complications. I have had no worse psoriasis than > before > > > but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. > > > The vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in > the > > UK > > > though, according to reports. > > > BTW My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as > it > > has > > > recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 > years > > and > > > more. > > > see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm > > > My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no > problem > > > with it. Just my opinion though! > > > Maddie > > Report of the CDC Public Forum on Smallpox
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/CDC_Public_hear… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > port.html > I still haven’t found any direct warnings to psoriasis sufferers, but the > casual association in terms does suggest due diligence before investing > oneself in any special effects laden fast track needle slam dance on the > epidermal shield. It looks like it’s time to call up the deep mining > Randallization research team effort, if for at least to test the local > bandwidth limitations of the inquiring rational mind. > "It’s very hard to say without a clear threat who should and who shouldn’t > be vaccinated," said Tara O’Toole, director of the Johns Hopkins Center > for > Civilian Biodefense Strategies. "Some analyses suggest that if you have > ever > had eczema or live with someone who has, you shouldn’t get vaccinated, and > by some estimates that eliminates 30 million Americans." > "But the issue is complicated because the vaccine, made from a live virus, > carries risks to patients with skin disorders and immune system > deficiencies, including people with AIDS. And those who are vulnerable are > endangered not only by being inoculated, but also by contact with others > who > have been inoculated."
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/24/national/24SMAL.html?ex=1033876800&… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 05a1cefdce65&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE > (copy and paste entire URL) > Since dermatologists and infectious disease specialists serve on the front > line, they will be prioritized to receive the shot. Hmmm.. avoiding > contact > with specific others who have been vaccinated? A genuine healthy reason > for > the skin disordered to avoid dermatologists? No further appreciative > hugging of our doctors? Will the side-FX and unwanted direct-FX generate > too many significant questions for us to process and answer? And, then, > there is always the positive possibility of a remarkable cure surfacing > unexpectedly and paradoxically from the combination involved in the > imprecise brew. In regard to psoriasis or any other sidelined disease > that > begs those magic winning numbers, we can hope, sometimes unusual > breakthroughs ride on horses with another name… > More published viewpoints: > Smallpox threat scares Sandia expert > http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news02/092702_news_zelicoff.shtml > Doctor: Smallpox Not a Bio-terror Threat > http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=22085 > There must be lots of people like me who had got psoriasis and had the > smallpox vaccine in the UK. Millions of people in the UK had to have the > jab in the 70s whilst the scare lasted and I expect lots of people took the > chance so that they could go on holiday. > I expect the authorities didn’t think of asking for records at the time > from local GPs.
That classic *didn’t think* seems apropo at first glance. There is something that’s a little crazy about all of this, but this is earth, and these are crazy times. Fast-tracking is just another bold term for shoot first and sort out the results later. The first to be innocculated will be in the front line of the real world testing phase. There will be some complications, and unfortunately the needs of the many outway the needs of the few. It all boils down to unknowns and alternatives; at some point we run out of time to learn from our mistakes. I feel we need to continue to educate ourselves on this matter as it relates to survival and quality of life. I only hope we can collect sufficient valuable data to construct a more sensible model on which to base an emergency program before the big whistle blows and the general public loses all rationality to fear and panic. My skin has me quite sensitized to this issue. "Some analyses suggest that if you have ever had eczema or live with someone who has, you shouldn’t get vaccinated, and by some estimates that eliminates 30 million Americans / the issue is complicated because the vaccine, made from a live virus, carries risks to patients with skin disorders and immune system deficiencies" http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/24/national/24SMAL.html?ex=1033876800&… 05a1cefdce65&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE -Dan
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination > > > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin > > > diseases are involved. > > > Anybody have experience with this? > > I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident > in > a > > laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from us > > tourists. > > My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a week > I > > had no further complications. I have had no worse psoriasis than > before > > but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. > > The vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in the > UK > > though, according to reports. > > BTW My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as it > has > > recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 years > and > > more. > > see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm > > My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no > problem > > with it. Just my opinion though! > > Maddie > Report of the CDC Public Forum on Smallpox
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/CDC_Public_hear… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> port.html > I still haven’t found any direct warnings to psoriasis sufferers, but the > casual association in terms does suggest due diligence before investing > oneself in any special effects laden fast track needle slam dance on the > epidermal shield. It looks like it’s time to call up the deep mining > Randallization research team effort, if for at least to test the local > bandwidth limitations of the inquiring rational mind. > "It’s very hard to say without a clear threat who should and who shouldn’t > be vaccinated," said Tara O’Toole, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for > Civilian Biodefense Strategies. "Some analyses suggest that if you have ever > had eczema or live with someone who has, you shouldn’t get vaccinated, and > by some estimates that eliminates 30 million Americans." > "But the issue is complicated because the vaccine, made from a live virus, > carries risks to patients with skin disorders and immune system > deficiencies, including people with AIDS. And those who are vulnerable are > endangered not only by being inoculated, but also by contact with others who > have been inoculated."
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/24/national/24SMAL.html?ex=1033876800&… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 05a1cefdce65&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE > (copy and paste entire URL) > Since dermatologists and infectious disease specialists serve on the front > line, they will be prioritized to receive the shot. Hmmm.. avoiding contact > with specific others who have been vaccinated? A genuine healthy reason for > the skin disordered to avoid dermatologists? No further appreciative > hugging of our doctors? Will the side-FX and unwanted direct-FX generate > too many significant questions for us to process and answer? And, then, > there is always the positive possibility of a remarkable cure surfacing > unexpectedly and paradoxically from the combination involved in the > imprecise brew. In regard to psoriasis or any other sidelined disease that > begs those magic winning numbers, we can hope, sometimes unusual > breakthroughs ride on horses with another name… > More published viewpoints: > Smallpox threat scares Sandia expert > http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news02/092702_news_zelicoff.shtml > Doctor: Smallpox Not a Bio-terror Threat > http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=22085
There must be lots of people like me who had got psoriasis and had the smallpox vaccine in the UK. Millions of people in the UK had to have the jab in the 70s whilst the scare lasted and I expect lots of people took the chance so that they could go on holiday. I expect the authorities didn’t think of asking for records at the time from local GPs. — Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination > > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin > > diseases are involved. > > Anybody have experience with this? > I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident in > a > laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from us > tourists. > My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a week I > had no further complications. I have had no worse psoriasis than before > but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. > The vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in the > UK > though, according to reports. > BTW My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as it > has > recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 years > and > more. > see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm > My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no problem > with it. Just my opinion though! > Maddie > Report of the CDC Public Forum on Smallpox
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/CDC_Public_hear… > port.html
I still haven’t found any direct warnings to psoriasis sufferers, but the casual association in terms does suggest due diligence before investing oneself in any special effects laden fast track needle slam dance on the epidermal shield. It looks like it’s time to call up the deep mining Randallization research team effort, if for at least to test the local bandwidth limitations of the inquiring rational mind. "It’s very hard to say without a clear threat who should and who shouldn’t be vaccinated," said Tara O’Toole, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies. "Some analyses suggest that if you have ever had eczema or live with someone who has, you shouldn’t get vaccinated, and by some estimates that eliminates 30 million Americans." "But the issue is complicated because the vaccine, made from a live virus, carries risks to patients with skin disorders and immune system deficiencies, including people with AIDS. And those who are vulnerable are endangered not only by being inoculated, but also by contact with others who have been inoculated." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/24/national/24SMAL.html?ex=1033876800&… 05a1cefdce65&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE (copy and paste entire URL) Since dermatologists and infectious disease specialists serve on the front line, they will be prioritized to receive the shot. Hmmm.. avoiding contact with specific others who have been vaccinated? A genuine healthy reason for the skin disordered to avoid dermatologists? No further appreciative hugging of our doctors? Will the side-FX and unwanted direct-FX generate too many significant questions for us to process and answer? And, then, there is always the positive possibility of a remarkable cure surfacing unexpectedly and paradoxically from the combination involved in the imprecise brew. In regard to psoriasis or any other sidelined disease that begs those magic winning numbers, we can hope, sometimes unusual breakthroughs ride on horses with another name… More published viewpoints: Smallpox threat scares Sandia expert http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news02/092702_news_zelicoff.shtml Doctor: Smallpox Not a Bio-terror Threat http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=22085 –Dan An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his friends. – Ernest Hemingway
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I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin diseases are involved. Anybody have experience with this?
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> I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin > diseases are involved. > Anybody have experience with this?
I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident in a laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from us tourists. My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a week I had no further complications. I have had no worse psoriasis than before but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. The vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in the UK though, according to reports. BTW My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as it has recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 years and more. see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no problem with it. Just my opinion though! Maddie — Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin > diseases are involved. > Anybody have experience with this? > I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident in a > laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from us > tourists. > My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a week I > had no further complications. I have had no worse psoriasis than before > but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. > The vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in the UK > though, according to reports. > BTW My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as it has > recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 years and > more. > see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm > My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no problem > with it. Just my opinion though! > Maddie
Report of the CDC Public Forum on Smallpox http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/CDC_Public_hear… port.html
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