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no cure for eczema?

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>There are many mistakes in measuring the UV light. Normally the meter = >response is not flat and the accuracy is not good.

This is irrelevant.  Most of the rest of the irrelevancies snipped… >I will first build a lamp and measure the output, than try on myself.

Why?  I thought you had psoriasis, not eczema. – Dave W. http://members.aol.com/psorsite/

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Since Divonex helps Psoriasis, and 297 nanometer increases Vitamin D3, than that lamp should help Psoriasis.

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One of the more interesting developments was discussed in some scientific mag recently. It discussed the possibility of a vaccine against allergies. This was based on the knowledge that a number of allergic reactions is caused by an inappropriate response from white blood cells (either T1 or T2 response). It is believed that in our clean modern environments there are not enough (common soil) bacteria that trigger the t2 response of white blood cells. In stead they over react on the t1 response. The vaccine could be made that it harmlessly triggers the T2 response thereby avoiding the severe allergic reactions. cheers, paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is it true that there’s no cure for eczema? What is it about eczema that > makes it incurable? I was told that eczema was caused by stress. I first got > my eczema in high school when I was under a  lot of stress. If eczema is > caused by stress, then it doesn’t make sense to me why it should be a > permanent thing you have to deal with once you get it.

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>1. I spoke with a woman who works in a pharmacy in Jerusalem. Her son = >got UVB for few months after having Eczema for few years. The eczema = >never returned.

So I take it her son is now dead.  That’s the only way to claim that the eczema was "permanently" cured. >2. I spoke with the doctor who works in our clinic in Jerusalem.=20

That’s an argument from authority.  That doctor could be wrong. >3. I read some articles in the internet. just search UVB + eczema and = >you will see them.

Why not go straight to Medline, instead?  In the peer-reviewed scientific medical journals, I can find no indication that UV treatment of eczema is "permanent," just that it works.  Oh, and this review states that the beneficial light wavelengths are different for psoriasis and eczema:    http://www.pinch.com/skinny?medline=97114622 >4. The UVB should continue few months after the eczema stops, this gives = >"endless" or long remission. This makes the treatment very long and I = >recommend the people to come to the clinic twice a week.=20

Is it "endless" or is it "long"?  That is, after all, my point. >5. one article for example : = >http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/7/eczema.htm

Which doesn’t say that UV offers a permanent cure for eczema, only that it helps. – Dave W. http://members.aol.com/psorsite/

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Dave, There are many mistakes in measuring the UV light. Normally the meter response is not flat and the accuracy is not good. I read about the UVAB lamps at waldmann site. I found an article showing that 297 nanometer is the right wavelength for vitamin d3. We know that 308 nanometer is better than 313, and this support the 297 nano claim, since 308 is closer than 313 to 297. I now build a 297 nano lamp. I found the phosphor and should get it in few days. It’s highly expensive by the way. I will first build a lamp and measure the output, than try on myself. The bandwidth is 23 nanometer so it is quite narrowband. Gil

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>The good thing in relation to psoriasis is that the eczema does not = >return.

And how is it that you know this? – Dave W. http://members.aol.com/psorsite/

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1. I spoke with a woman who works in a pharmacy in Jerusalem. Her son got UVB for few months after having Eczema for few years. The eczema never returned. 2. I spoke with the doctor who works in our clinic in Jerusalem. 3. I read some articles in the internet. just search UVB + eczema and you will see them. 4. The UVB should continue few months after the eczema stops, this gives "endless" or long remission. This makes the treatment very long and I recommend the people to come to the clinic twice a week. 5. one article for example : http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/7/eczema.htm — Teva international marketing 20 Mekor Haim street Jerusalem 93465 Israel Fax: +972 2 6724273 Tel: +972-54-948642

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My son’s eczema was related to food allergies which I figured out despite his Dr saying that it probably wasn’t.  Have you looked into that connection?  He was reacting to citrus fruits, strawberries and tomatoes(acid food).  He is now completely cleared unless he eats them. Everyone is different, but I would check this out.   In our clinic we treat Eczema with UVB lamps.   The cure happens to 2/3 of the patints after 3-4 months, twice a week.   You don’t see any results befor 2 month.   The good thing in relation to psoriasis is that the eczema does not return.   see also this article:   Abstract   Background: Narrow-band ultraviolet B (UVB) is an effective treatment for psoriasis, and open studies suggest that this phototherapy might improve atopic eczema. We did a randomized controlled trial to compare narrow-band UVB, UVA, and visible light phototherapy as second-line, adjunctive treatments in adult patients with moderate to severe atopic eczema.   Methods: Phototherapy was administered twice a week for 12 weeks. 26 patients were randomly assigned narrow-band UVB, 24 were assigned UVA, and 23 visible fluorescent light. The primary endpoints were change in total disease activity (sum of scores at six body sites) and change in extent of disease after 24 treatments compared with baseline. Data were analyzed by the method of summary measures.   Findings: 13 patients withdrew or were excluded from analysis. Mean reductions in total disease activity over 24 treatments in patients who received narrow-band UVB and UVA, respectively, were 9.4 points (95% CI 3.6 to 15.2) and 4.4 points (-1.0 to 9.8) more than in patients who received visible light. Mean reductions in extent of disease after 24 treatments with narrow-band UVB and UVA were 6.7% (1.5 to 11.9) and -1.0% (-5.3 to 3.3) compared with visible light. A small proportion of patients developed erythema after phototherapy or had a flare in their eczema sufficient to withdraw from treatment.   Interpretation: Narrow-band UVB is an effective adjunctive treatment for moderate to severe atopic eczema, and the treatment is well tolerated by most patients.   Publication   Reynolds N.J., Franklin V., Gray J.C., Diffey B.L. and Farr P.M. ‘ Narrow-band ultraviolet B and broadband ultraviolet A phototherapy in adult atopic eczema: a randomized controlled trial’. The Lancet 2001; 357: 2012-2016.   Contact   Professor Brian L. Diffey, NGH Unit, Newcastle upon Tyne. Tel: 0191-273-8811.

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>Is it true that there’s no cure for eczema? What is it about eczema that >makes it incurable? I was told that eczema was caused by stress. I first got >my eczema in high school when I was under a  lot of stress. If eczema is >caused by stress, then it doesn’t make sense to me why it should be a >permanent thing you have to deal with once you get it.

Many people have found eczema to be caused by dairy consumption. Something you can try. Don <donwiss at panix.com>.

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In our clinic we treat Eczema with UVB lamps. The cure happens to 2/3 of the patints after 3-4 months, twice a week. You don’t see any results befor 2 month. The good thing in relation to psoriasis is that the eczema does not return. see also this article: Abstract Background: Narrow-band ultraviolet B (UVB) is an effective treatment for psoriasis, and open studies suggest that this phototherapy might improve atopic eczema. We did a randomized controlled trial to compare narrow-band UVB, UVA, and visible light phototherapy as second-line, adjunctive treatments in adult patients with moderate to severe atopic eczema. Methods: Phototherapy was administered twice a week for 12 weeks. 26 patients were randomly assigned narrow-band UVB, 24 were assigned UVA, and 23 visible fluorescent light. The primary endpoints were change in total disease activity (sum of scores at six body sites) and change in extent of disease after 24 treatments compared with baseline. Data were analyzed by the method of summary measures. Findings: 13 patients withdrew or were excluded from analysis. Mean reductions in total disease activity over 24 treatments in patients who received narrow-band UVB and UVA, respectively, were 9.4 points (95% CI 3.6 to 15.2) and 4.4 points (-1.0 to 9.8) more than in patients who received visible light. Mean reductions in extent of disease after 24 treatments with narrow-band UVB and UVA were 6.7% (1.5 to 11.9) and -1.0% (-5.3 to 3.3) compared with visible light. A small proportion of patients developed erythema after phototherapy or had a flare in their eczema sufficient to withdraw from treatment. Interpretation: Narrow-band UVB is an effective adjunctive treatment for moderate to severe atopic eczema, and the treatment is well tolerated by most patients. Publication Reynolds N.J., Franklin V., Gray J.C., Diffey B.L. and Farr P.M. ‘ Narrow-band ultraviolet B and broadband ultraviolet A phototherapy in adult atopic eczema: a randomized controlled trial’. The Lancet 2001; 357: 2012-2016. Contact Professor Brian L. Diffey, NGH Unit, Newcastle upon Tyne. Tel: 0191-273-8811.

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Is it true that there’s no cure for eczema? What is it about eczema that makes it incurable? I was told that eczema was caused by stress. I first got my eczema in high school when I was under a  lot of stress. If eczema is caused by stress, then it doesn’t make sense to me why it should be a permanent thing you have to deal with once you get it.

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